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Why you cant compare Daarood origins to Isaaq

Insomniac

#Justice4ShukriAbdi
Wadani
Did you choose the username LibaaxTheScientist ironically lol. It's the 21st century and you still have faith in fraudulent manuscripts. Science has settled the debate, neither Daarood nor Isaaq are descended from Islamic Era Arabs. The Hartis on Yfull share a TMRCA at 1550ybp, that's 450 AD which predates Islam and it's arrival in the horn, with more Daaroods tested that number will go up. You also share a TMRCA with the E-V32 Hawiye and Isaaqs at 3100ybp, which most likely puts your ancestor in Africa in 1100 BC. You are a Cushitic African sxb be proud.

It was for practical reasons that our ancestors claimed Banu Hashim, having the title Sharif or Sayed was politically expedient when dealing with the Ayrabs and it also helped further their business connections. Nowadays in a secular world being a Syed doesn't mean anything and has zero benefits, so why cling on to these myths when they've been rendered obsolete and useless?.
 
Waryaa the name somali was conjured by Darood. Before i gave you that idenity to cover yourself, You were called barbarians and gaalah. Ismaa'iilis indeed are noble. Daarood Ismaa'iil is my name waryaa. Are u called isxaaq ismaaciil?
Sxb the word Somalia comes from samaale, the ethnic group of ppl that have been living in horn of africa way befor islam .,this is facts.

Here is small partial of my abtiris from
Cisman mudulood to samaale hill abroon.
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If daroods were the brothers of dir how come you dont share the samaale abtiris ?this is the dir bimaal that live in konfuur Somalia abtiris 14082


If the the name Somalia came from jebertis how come daroods dont have it in their abtiris ?

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Jebertis either came from Eritrea,Oman,socotra islands or yemen ,the later most likely as all the jeberti elders and scholars and oral history agrees with it.


Watch from 7:40 the sheikh says jebertis were xabashas that came from abyssinia to Yemen and then moved back to Somalia and mixed with the dir samaale.
 
Berbers are descendant of eastern berbers(proto-somali aka dir hawiyr rahanweyn). Asmach means people of the left side and is what herodetus called the egyptian deserters who settled in northern ethiopia. Automali is the greek rendition of the hebrew trnaslation of asmach.
Asmach is thought to have been their Egyptian name, with Automoli being a Greek derivative of the Hebrew word S’mali (meaning "on the left hand side").[52]".

When herodetos was calling the asmach was before christ. Many travellers came to the region since then but never referred to the region as automali. Automali is just an greek rendition of the the translation of the egyptian word asmach:
Asmach is thought to have been their Egyptian name, with Automoli being a Greek derivative of the Hebrew word S’mali (meaning "on the left hand side"). Very suugo history.
In the 1st Ad a greek called them berbers. Many arabs called them ardul-berber and gaala and hawiya but is what only after ismaa'iil bin abroon came that 150 laters did a habesh call this belligerent group of people as soomaal. And 50 years after that we read in the futuh that those same belligerent tribes waged war on aksum and obliterated it. Most of the tribes called somali were daarood followed by Dir. Eversince that victory the berbers were forever called somali/ismaaciili. 23andme is nomesense commercial industry.
It was the futuh wars and mainly gerri koombe and marehan generals and knights that destroyed the habash for 30 years. The next hundred years oromo took advantage of those weakened habash. And once again it was sayyid and his Dhulbahante Darood army that obliterated habash. And once again it siad barre the marehan who waged jihad on habash and humbled them. Darood especially Gerri and marehaan are the kryptonite of habash. They are the habash tamers in the house of ismaaciil.

And lastly although ishmael was not a qahtanite he was still a semite who traced to sem. Qahtanite arabs make up like 20% of arab history. And if ishmael and abraham didnt speak a mutually intelligible language to arabic they still spoke a language 95% similar. Just look how isaacite language is similar to arabic. Ofcourse ishmalite was just as similar. You make it seem like ishmael was chinese kkk. He probably spoke a mutuatually intellligble language to his brother isaac and his jurhumite inlaws. Ishmael married two bah. Bah egyptian like his reer abti and bah jurhum(qahtan). Bah jurhum gave him 8 and bah egyptian gave him 4. For a total of 12.
Qahtan arent the only arabs. There are arabs called arab albaida or extinct arabs such ad thamud imliiq, and keturite arabs, from abrahams third wife keturah.
Arab alaaribah(or bedouins arabs) arent theonly arabs. The mehra according to arabs traditions are remnants of ad and thamud and thus referred to as arab albaida. Many clans of east africa are also descendants of abraham via keturah. But not via ismhael. This is where we and dir are different. Dir came 5thousand years ago, but we came 700 years ago.

War nin yahow your little aboriginal mind cant grasp what im saying.

Josephus ('A.J.' i. 15) tells us that the descendants of Keturah occupied the Troglodyte country and Arabia Felix, which statement is repeated by Jerome ('Qu. Heb. in Gen.').” The Holy Bible according to the authorized version (A.D.1611) published 1872.

Many of your kind also came 3thousand years ago with the breaking of the damm of marib. Many oromo and sab are actually saba' bi nabain yaqiin. Or saba' the iramites, aka sabeans of the dam of aram. Aka saba son of yarub son of qahtan son of eram son of shem. The people of the horn are different waves of arabs coming to east africa doqonyahow.


5thousand years ago when the most gob in the land were abarahams descendants, he like ismael jeberti, sent his offspring from arabia to civilize the barbarian pharonic peoples in horn africa. Fast forwards 4300 years ismaiil bin ibrahiim did the same thing. I am a present sent to civilize you so stop resisting you damn aboriginal.
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Is this @drosman alt account ?

And thank you for civilizing us samaale aboriginals oo descendent of the saint al jeberti Ismail ibn akhdam.
 

Canuck

#Justice4ShukriAbdi
Staff member
Wadani
Sxb the word Somalia comes from samaale, the ethnic group of ppl that have been living in horn of africa way befor islam .,this is facts.

Here is small partial of my abtiris from
Cisman mudulood to samaale hill abroon.
View attachment 14080

If daroods were the brothers of dir how come you dont share the samaale abtiris ?this is the dir bimaal that live in konfuur Somalia abtiris View attachment 14082


If the the name Somalia came from jebertis how come daroods dont have it in their abtiris ?

View attachment 14081

Jebertis either came from Eritrea,Oman,socotra islands or yemen ,the later most likely as all the jeberti elders and scholars and oral history agrees with it.


Watch from 7:40 the sheikh says jebertis were xabashas that came from abyssinia to Yemen and then moved back to Somalia and mixed with the dir samaale.
He is Eritrean, don’t take his words seriously.
 

LibaaxTheScientist

Waamo-Boy
Wadani
Sxb the word Somalia comes from samaale, the ethnic group of ppl that have been living in horn of africa way befor islam .,this is facts.

Here is small partial of my abtiris from
Cisman mudulood to samaale hill abroon.
View attachment 14080

If daroods were the brothers of dir how come you dont share the samaale abtiris ?this is the dir bimaal that live in konfuur Somalia abtiris View attachment 14082


If the the name Somalia came from jebertis how come daroods dont have it in their abtiris ?

View attachment 14081

Jebertis either came from Eritrea,Oman,socotra islands or yemen ,the later most likely as all the jeberti elders and scholars and oral history agrees with it.


Watch from 7:40 the sheikh says jebertis were xabashas that came from abyssinia to Yemen and then moved back to Somalia and mixed with the dir samaale.
If samaale is your name, how come hawiye and dirs were never called samaale prior to
Daarood?
The first clear written reference of the sobriquet Somali, however, dates back to the 15th century. During the conflict between the Sultanate of Ifat based at Zeila and the Solomonic Dynasty, the Abyssinian emperor had one of his court officials compose a hymn celebrating a military victory over the Sultan of Ifat's eponymous troops.

Daarood
Ismaa'
iiL
Abroon/abrahin(its written abrahin in some abtiris like dhulbahante). According to samaalic era abroon's real name was ibraahim, he posted this on sspot long ago.

He'res what obviously transpired. Barbars in the horn were unorganized and mere tribute payers to habash since fall of punt. Its no coincidence that the first mention of somalis was in an act of war and 150years since Daarood arrived. Its also no coincidence that 50 years after that hymn was composed that the majority of the highranking generals were Daarood and the most courageous of the army. Ever since those rowdy warriorlike somalis came into the horn with their arabian pride and isla weyni, not bowing down to habash, the berbers of the horn were since than called somali(hiil abroon). Somali is Darood and Darood is Somali. Before Darood there was Barbarian, Gaalah, hawiya, mogadishian but never somali.
Daarood ismaa'iil=Daarood somali

Somalia is legacy and story that follows a pious banu hashim that God made into A nation after he was trialed and his home Destroyed by the Zaidi Shiites. His story is like that of ishmael bin abraham. We Darood are Ishmalites/ismaa'iili/samaale/somali. Before Darood you were Barbarian tributaries of Habash. There is no Somali without Darood. You can keep the name barbarian or gaala or hewiye but Soomaali stays, its my father's Name, my legacy, my dynasty. Samaalhiil abroon(ibraahim according samlic era)=ismaa'iil Ibraahim.

Theres is no sab and samaale, all of you are sab orommia gaala. In 1300s an arab historian told that only four tribes inhabitted absynnia:tigrah, amharah, cafar, and gaala. Which onr of those do you think you fit into abgaal boy? Hawiye is a town in ethiopia afraan qallo is what you were before you became somalized! Look at that just 1300s there was still no somali, just gaalo. Fast forward 150 years we have belligerent stuck up prideful mujaahid sumaal(who were mainly darod subtribes and their host tribe Dir)who destroyed habash for 600years, untill hawiye(oromo gaala agents) destroyed somalia.
 

Zidane

Wadani
Sorry dude. Do you know 40% Arabs are of African Origin and many are as dark as Somalis? this percentage is based on Arab genetics posted all over the internet. Majority of these African arabs also live in north Africa today although they have lost touch with their Berber language. It seems somali and its sister languages are the only survivors of berber languages. We are the only ethnicity whose DNA is rated as VERY OLD because our forefathers kept our lineage pure. Almost every Daarood is EV32 like Hawiye. You can not even justify claiming other lineages according to Islam, so the ignorant fools in the past who decided to claim Daaroods were Arabs had no idea their unislamic contribution to Somali history.

You can claim Arab roots all you want but you must know everybody with internet access can read Wikipedia and see Somalis are of ancient people who dscended from North African Berbers. Our forefathers traded with Pharoahs and served their Kingdoms with goods. Berbera was one of the most free ports open to all traders according to the greek traveler and he called Somalis Berbers.

Our name evolved from the egyptian name of "Asmach", Automoli by Greek and later to Soomaali based on the nomadic word of go-milk. Saxib, if you are in search of colourful history and that you feel good about descending from well known and brave people, Somalis are the descendants of such great lineage and don't need to claim Arabs. Even prophet Mohamed peace be Upon originally was non-arab in his roots. Arabs are dvided into Arab and those who are Arabized. With your dark ass looks and Somali african features, the only option among Arabs for you is to claim Arabized African. Go run with it but for those of us proud of their hsitory, the God given language and blood Allah honored with us are unchanged, they remain Somali forever.
I agree with everything you said other than that somali is a berber language. Berber languages are still alive and being spoken in the rural parts of the maghreb and it doesn't really sound like somali. Chadic languages are way more similar to berber languages than cushitic languages are.
 
If samaale is your name, how come hawiye and dirs were never called samaale prior to
Daarood?
The first clear written reference of the sobriquet Somali, however, dates back to the 15th century. During the conflict between the Sultanate of Ifat based at Zeila and the Solomonic Dynasty, the Abyssinian emperor had one of his court officials compose a hymn celebrating a military victory over the Sultan of Ifat's eponymous troops.

Daarood
Ismaa'
iiL
Abroon/abrahin(its written abrahin in some abtiris like dhulbahante). According to samaalic era abroon's real name was ibraahim, he posted this on sspot long ago.

He'res what obviously transpired. Barbars in the horn were unorganized and mere tribute payers to habash since fall of punt. Its no coincidence that the first mention of somalis was in an act of war and 150years since Daarood arrived. Its also no coincidence that 50 years after that hymn was composed that the majority of the highranking generals were Daarood and the most courageous of the army. Ever since those rowdy warriorlike somalis came into the horn with their arabian pride and isla weyni, not bowing down to habash, the berbers of the horn were since than called somali(hiil abroon). Somali is Darood and Darood is Somali. Before Darood there was Barbarian, Gaalah, hawiya, mogadishian but never somali.
Daarood ismaa'iil=Daarood somali

Somalia is legacy and story that follows a pious banu hashim that God made into A nation after he was trialed and his home Destroyed by the Zaidi Shiites. His story is like that of ishmael bin abraham. We Darood are Ishmalites/ismaa'iili/samaale/somali. Before Darood you were Barbarian tributaries of Habash. There is no Somali without Darood. You can keep the name barbarian or gaala or hewiye but Soomaali stays, its my father's Name, my legacy, my dynasty. Samaalhiil abroon(ibraahim according samlic era)=ismaa'iil Ibraahim.

Theres is no sab and samaale, all of you are sab orommia gaala. In 1300s an arab historian told that only four tribes inhabitted absynnia:tigrah, amharah, cafar, and gaala. Which onr of those do you think you fit into abgaal boy? Hawiye is a town in ethiopia afraan qallo is what you were before you became somalized! Look at that just 1300s there was still no somali, just gaalo. Fast forward 150 years we have belligerent stuck up prideful mujaahid sumaal(who were mainly darod subtribes and their host tribe Dir)who destroyed habash for 600years, untill hawiye(oromo gaala agents) destroyed somalia.
If samaale is your name, how come hawiye and dirs were never called samaale prior to
Daarood?


Hawiye and dir and most of the tribes in Somalia forefathers name was samaale .
By the time the akhdam Yemen saint al jeberti came to Somalia the SAMAALE tribe have already branched off to hawiye, dir, gaaljecel , hawadle , ajuuran AND SO FORTH .

abroon's real name was ibraahim,

Do you have evidence of this ?

fall of punt.
according to tour oral history and abtiris , there was no jeberti darood at the time of punt .

Somali is Darood and Darood is Somali. Before Darood there was Barbarian, Gaalah, hawiya,

Lol . How can jeberti darood be samaal when you yourself said you came from Eritrea in that other thread from a month ago , your abtiris does not contain samaale , stop begging and stealing other ppls origin . Dont be a self hater and be proud of your akhdami jeberti origin.
. Is either your omani, mehri , eritrean,yemeni or samaale . I think the whole jeberti abtiris needs a make over :pachah:.

Fast forward 150 years we have belligerent stuck up prideful mujaahid sumaal(who were mainly darod subtribes and their host tribe Dir)who destroyed habash for 600years, untill hawiye(oromo gaala agents) destroyed somalia.

other then dhulbhante and ogadens there is no such thing as mujahid daroods .

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The famous moor geographer Al idirisi
Has mentioned Hawiye beign in the banadir coast in the 13th century and already branched off from the samaale tribe.

For the outside world like arabs they called the samaale (somali) ppl "the black berbers" due to their cushitic roots ..
You can keep the name barbarian or gaala or hewiye but Soomaali stays, its my father's Name, my legacy, my dynasty

:dead:


Your Father is jeberti darood and not samaale, is embarrasing the amount of begging your doing in this thread. If you want to be initiated to the samaale tribe you can with a small fee send to my email account.
@TrapKing Is this dude really a mj or even a darood ? He sounds like hes running from saint sh Ismael jeberti :pachah:
 

Aroori

Qaxooti
Daarood origins as i have shown in other threads is solid. From the time sheekh ismaa'iil ibraahim was born to Daarood abtiris count, to yemeni meheri(mehrah have existed for thoudands of years, but just like daarood did with Dir, his brother did with mehra and hijacked the identity) ismaa'iil connection. To the fact that ismaaciil bin ibraahim az zabiidi actually lived in somalia(jeberta) and even the samaalhiil abroon coincides with his name and appearance in the horn region. Its also when berbers(barabarians) recieved the name somali(cuz they entered the isma'ili fold just like 'abbasid, saalihi, qaadiri, etc). Just 100 years prior to Daarood, the somalis were called berbers ,gaallah, hawiyah, but never somali untill ismaa'iil bin ibraahim aljabrti entered the scene. I did many other threads on this. I came across a blogpost atttempting to debunk daarood origins by saying that ismaaciil aljebertis lineage was forged and that aqeel bin abi talib never had a son named muhammad
If this pathetic excuse of historian knew a feather's mass of history he would know that muhammad bin aqeel had a son named abdullahi who was very well known in the hadiith world. He transmitted countless hadiths.
Why do you believe such fairytales? isaaq and daarood are both original east Africans.

I really hate people with inferiority complex.
 

LibaaxTheScientist

Waamo-Boy
Wadani
If samaale is your name, how come hawiye and dirs were never called samaale prior to
Daarood?


Hawiye and dir and most of the tribes in Somalia forefathers name was samaale .
By the time the akhdam Yemen saint al jeberti came to Somalia the SAMAALE tribe have already branched off to hawiye, dir, gaaljecel , hawadle , ajuuran AND SO FORTH .

abroon's real name was ibraahim,

Do you have evidence of this ?

fall of punt.
according to tour oral history and abtiris , there was no jeberti darood at the time of punt .

Somali is Darood and Darood is Somali. Before Darood there was Barbarian, Gaalah, hawiya,

Lol . How can jeberti darood be samaal when you yourself said you came from Eritrea in that other thread from a month ago , your abtiris does not contain samaale , stop begging and stealing other ppls origin . Dont be a self hater and be proud of your akhdami jeberti origin.
. Is either your omani, mehri , eritrean,yemeni or samaale . I think the whole jeberti abtiris needs a make over :pachah:.

Fast forward 150 years we have belligerent stuck up prideful mujaahid sumaal(who were mainly darod subtribes and their host tribe Dir)who destroyed habash for 600years, untill hawiye(oromo gaala agents) destroyed somalia.

other then dhulbhante and ogadens there is no such thing as mujahid daroods .

View attachment 14094

The famous moor geographer Al idirisi
Has mentioned Hawiye beign in the banadir coast in the 13th century and already branched off from the samaale tribe.

For the outside world like arabs they called the samaale (somali) ppl "the black berbers" due to their cushitic roots ..
You can keep the name barbarian or gaala or hewiye but Soomaali stays, its my father's Name, my legacy, my dynasty

:dead:


Your Father is jeberti darood and not samaale, is embarrasing the amount of begging your doing in this thread. If you want to be initiated to the samaale tribe you can with a small fee send to my email account.
@TrapKing Is this dude really a mj or even a darood ? He sounds like hes running from saint sh Ismael jeberti :pachah:
Somali waa Dir iyo Darood, never heard that famous saying?
 

Imam Gurey

Grand Imam of Somalia
Wadani
If samaale is your name, how come hawiye and dirs were never called samaale prior to
Daarood?


Hawiye and dir and most of the tribes in Somalia forefathers name was samaale .
By the time the akhdam Yemen saint al jeberti came to Somalia the SAMAALE tribe have already branched off to hawiye, dir, gaaljecel , hawadle , ajuuran AND SO FORTH .

abroon's real name was ibraahim,

Do you have evidence of this ?

fall of punt.
according to tour oral history and abtiris , there was no jeberti darood at the time of punt .

Somali is Darood and Darood is Somali. Before Darood there was Barbarian, Gaalah, hawiya,

Lol . How can jeberti darood be samaal when you yourself said you came from Eritrea in that other thread from a month ago , your abtiris does not contain samaale , stop begging and stealing other ppls origin . Dont be a self hater and be proud of your akhdami jeberti origin.
. Is either your omani, mehri , eritrean,yemeni or samaale . I think the whole jeberti abtiris needs a make over :pachah:.

Fast forward 150 years we have belligerent stuck up prideful mujaahid sumaal(who were mainly darod subtribes and their host tribe Dir)who destroyed habash for 600years, untill hawiye(oromo gaala agents) destroyed somalia.

other then dhulbhante and ogadens there is no such thing as mujahid daroods .

View attachment 14094

The famous moor geographer Al idirisi
Has mentioned Hawiye beign in the banadir coast in the 13th century and already branched off from the samaale tribe.

For the outside world like arabs they called the samaale (somali) ppl "the black berbers" due to their cushitic roots ..
You can keep the name barbarian or gaala or hewiye but Soomaali stays, its my father's Name, my legacy, my dynasty

:dead:


Your Father is jeberti darood and not samaale, is embarrasing the amount of begging your doing in this thread. If you want to be initiated to the samaale tribe you can with a small fee send to my email account.
@TrapKing Is this dude really a mj or even a darood ? He sounds like hes running from saint sh Ismael jeberti :pachah:
Only Dhulbahante and Og kulaha! Xabashidu wan babin jirne. Dhulka aya kahos marin jirne. You gotta respect Marehan man!
 
Only Dhulbahante and Og kulaha! Xabashidu wan babin jirne. Dhulka aya kahos marin jirne. You gotta respect Marehan man!
How come it took a kikuyu helicopter to save your aabo siad barre even tho yall had all the tanks and the best armory from Somalia national army ?

Thanks to the nepotism of afweyne you also had the most generals . Where did they all disappear to when their ppl were running out of banadir without shoes and clothes ?
 

Imam Gurey

Grand Imam of Somalia
Wadani
How come it took a kikuyu helicopter to save your aabo siad barre even tho yall had all the tanks and the best armory from Somalia national army ?

Thanks to the nepotism of afweyne you also had the most generals . Where did they all disappear to when their ppl were running out of banadir without shoes and clothes ?
Nigga are you on Khad? I was talking about smoking Xabashis. SNA consisted of all tribes not Mareexan alone stop peddling lies. Even if we had top generals it doesnt mean the soldiers can be controled. It became qabiil fight quick and everybody qabilikisu ayu lasafte
 

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