THEORY: T1a subclade in Dir/Garxajis/HJ could be possibly Yemeni in origin?

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Autosomal dna and Y-DNA are completely different. We aren't foundational arabs sxb. We are somalis but we acknowledge our bearer was a middle Eastern males. As Y-DNA is passed on from the first man to the last man. The T haplogroup originates in the middle east. We acknowledge this. Autosomal dna other other hand shows our unique genetic make up both maternally and paternally. Most issaqs/dirs are highly percentaged somalis. We are black cushitic males with Arabian/Persian forefather. :manny:
 
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Autosomal dna and Y-DNA are completely different. We aren't foundational arabs sxb. We are somalis but we acknowledge our bearer was a middle Eastern males. As Y-DNA is passed on from the first man to the last man. The T haplogroup originates in the middle east. We acknowledge this. Autosomal dna other other hand shows our unique genetic make up both maternally and paternally. Most issaqs/dirs are highly percentaged somalis. We are black cushitic males with Arabian/Persian forefather. :manny:


Dee iska shego Arab while Arabs have East/North African ancestry in high percentage. Our Forefathers from East Afrtica migrated to all over the Middle east and to Southern Europe. Southern Italy all the way to Balkans, there is East/north African DNA.

I am proud Somal;i. Naqaska hayga xirina meesha with your claims of a somali having their origins from Yemen iyo meel daran.
 

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Dee iska shego Arab while Arabs have East/North African ancestry in high percentage. Our Forefathers from East Afrtica migrated to all over the Middle east and to Southern Europe. Southern Italy all the way to Balkans, there is East/north African DNA.

I am proud Somal;i. Naqaska hayga xirina meesha with your claims of a somali having their origins from Yemen iyo meel daran.
As much as Hurts your wrong mate :manny:issaq/dir farther was middle Eastern males. They passed on their T middle Eastern haplogroups to their descendants which is us :manny:I'm somali 100%. But I acknowledge and accept that my forefathers were middle Eastern. Seems like your in denial. Its a hard truth to swallow. Angu arab ma sheeganin wahan sheegana runta.
 

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assimilated Ogadeeb/Harti.

Isaxaaq expanded into woqooyi galbeed from Sanaag in the 18h century. The leader of this millitary assault was my maternal ancestor Ugaas Cabdi Ciise destroyed the Absame & Harti tribes in battle then expelled them out of waqooyi galbeed.

Back then the royal family of Isaxaaq was Tol Jecel, but after witnessing the battle. The Isaxaaq elders came together and appointed Ugaas Cabdi's son, Guleed Cabdi, to be the new Suldaan of Isaxaaq. Now making the Garxajis the leaders of Isaxaaq and changing the name of Reer Da'uud forever into what we now call Beesha Ciidagale (warrior) after the battle.

The remains of the finished Absame/Harti were incorprated into Habar Awal Jibril Abokor, which is why some Habar Awal (only half of them really) are E-V32. Because they are former Daroods. (fuck up he wasent Jibril Abokor he's Hussein Abokor, JA are all shegaados)
I know that habar yunis and half of habar jeclo, or more, are Dir. Also that parts of isse muse are also dir. The issue I have is you're suggesting that even sa'ad muse has genetic divisions within it.

Also, considering that there's an actual tribe of Ogaden called reer Isaaq, would this ironically be the ev32 HA ancestors? 1620683055416.png
 

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As much as Hurts your wrong mate :manny:issaq/dir farther was middle Eastern males. They passed on their T middle Eastern haplogroups to their descendants which is us :manny:I'm somali 100%. But I acknowledge and accept that my forefathers were middle Eastern. Seems like your in denial. Its a hard truth to swallow. Angu arab ma sheeganin wahan sheegana runta.
He's saying that T Somalis originated from the horn, traveled the world, and came back. This would make sense as in order to have camels you would need to bring them in from Mongolia.

Also, India is named after the Indus Kush so it's safe to say we've got relatives there too.
 

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I know that habar yunis and half of habar jeclo, or more, are Dir. Also that parts of isse muse are also dir. The issue I have is you're suggesting that even sa'ad muse has genetic divisions within it.

Also, considering that there's an actual tribe of Ogaden called reer Isaaq, would this ironically be the ev32 HA ancestors? View attachment 29711
Nah the ev32 carrying habar awals are assimilated hartis as the OP said. Issaqs and dirs are realetd. Habar awal are half and half. Some carry T and some carry ev32 which is somali :manny:
 

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He's saying that T Somalis originated from the horn, traveled the world, and came back. This would make sense as in order to have camels you would need to bring them in from Mongolia.

Also, India is named after the Indus Kush so it's safe to say we've got relatives there too.
Nope the sheikh issaq story makes most sense. @Weeb-Chan said it comes from sheikh issaq:manny:
 

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Possible as well. But the theory brought together by @Weeb-Chan makes perfect sense when truly understood. When all pride and bias dropped. :manny:
Don't believe everything he says because it informs you about your tribe. Somalis are great when it comes to fabricating lineages.
 

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Don't believe everything he says because it informs you about your tribe. Somalis are great when it comes to fabricating lineages.
Your right actually but from all story's I've heard this is the best one so far:manny:Just my opinion. I will take it with a grain of salt
 

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They became very langaab, they're protected by another Isaxaaq clan now & live in their lands.
That isaaq clan is Habar awal but they are closely related to Habar jeclo
Tol jeclo did not die in great numbers for the isaaq name for you to be calling them laangaab. isku xishood.

PS They're not HA but Habar Xabusheed, they're the older brother of Habar Jeclo. They live in Galbeed today unlike HJ who inhabit mostly the eastern regions.
 

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Tol jeclo did not die in great numbers for the isaaq name for you to be calling them laangaab. isku xishood.

PS They're not HA but Habar Xabusheed, they're the older brother of Habar Jeclo. They live in Galbeed today unlike HJ who inhabit mostly the eastern regions.
Yea my bad I already correctected myself earlier it was a rude take wallahi.
 

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Isaxaaq expanded into woqooyi galbeed from Sanaag in the 18h century
This is not true isaaq didnt come out of sanaag in the 18th century more like the 14th or 15th or even earlier. They were all the way in modern awdal where the two main sub of hy starters are buried 700 years ago.
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