Pan Africanists have always hated Somalia

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Pan-Africanists were always anti-somali. T.R. Makonnen, a pan-African activist, sent a letter to W. E. B. Du Bois about his concern of SYL distrusting him because of his close relations with Ethiopia & Somalis not directing their grievance against Ethiopia to england
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Pan africanism is a code word for bantu supremacy. Somalis are not African = not bantu, Somalis are Arabs = Muslim.
Your answer is not a logical response but an emotional one. I don't know the full history of the Somali Youth League when it comes to the road of independence of the nation called Somalia. I am aware however that the United Kingdom had all five territories of the Somali people within their hands and could have easy given them to Somalia without entertaining a poverty sicken and backward nations like Ethiopia or Kenya. The British deliberately gave away our land to those two nations knowing full well that it would lead to conflict in the future. In fact both Ethiopia and Kenya fought Somalis in their region during the 1960's even without Somalia declaring war on them first. I point this out to educate you on the realities of politics on this planet

We have to be smarter than we use to be, we need to evolve as a people. Ethiopia or Kenya are no more pan Africanist than Sudan or Saudi Arabia. The point I am making is simple, the world does not work on emotions nor does it work on poetry but logic. . Black Americans cannot even sort out their own ghetto communities and are too busy calling anyone who does not have a wide nose not black. This is how fucked up black Americans are and they are the originators of this bullshit philosophy called pan Africanism. So do not take what black Americans or anyone else with this ideology seriously its all for show and no substance. Bantu people are divided into 10 different groups that splitter off into 100's of other branches that are linguistically different from each other. In other words they are in no way united into a single political body or ideology, otherwise they would not be under Neo-colonialism from the West. So do not worry about the bantu expansion or whatever it is not a threat. African bantus know we are not Arabs but Cushitic and a unique group of Africans that have no real admixes with any other group. They fear our unity as a people, because we have a single identity and if we use our brains we can come to dominate the African continent in no time.

Bantus are not strategic thinkers like the Russians nor are they a logical group of people but hyper emotional. They see Somalia doing better today than it was in 2009 and fear the rise of Somalia. We should not concern ourselves with such childish matters and concentrate on fixing our homeland. Kenyans do not love people from Uganda or Rwanda anymore than a DR Congo person loves a Zambian. Africa is a political mess and the African Union is a worthless talking shop of idiots. If Somalia can turn itself around and rise up from the ashes these same bantus that are taking potshots at you today will come to respect our nation achievements. Somalis need to let the emotional nonsense go and approach things logically.
 

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Your answer is not a logical response but an emotional one. I don't know the full history of the Somali Youth League when it comes to the road of independence of the nation of Somalia. I am aware however that the United Kingdom had all five territories of the Somali people within their hands and could have easy give them to Somalia without entertaining a poverty sicken and backward nations like Ethiopia or Kenya. The British deliberately gave away our land to those two nations knowing full well that it would lead to conflict in the future. If fact both Ethiopia and Kenya fought Somalis in their region during the 1960's even without Somalia declaring war on them first. I point this out to educate you on the realities of politics on this planet. Black Americans cannot even sort out their own ghetto communities and are too busy calling anyone who does not have a wide nose not black. This is how fucked up black Americans are and they are the originators of this bullshit philosophy called pan Africanism. So do not take what black Americans or anyone else with this ideology seriously its all for show and no substance.

We have to be smarter than we use to be, we need to evolve as a people. Ethiopia or Kenya are no more pan Africanist than Sudan or Saudi Arabia. The point I am making is simple, the world does not work on emotions nor does it work on poetry but logic. Bantu people are divided into 10 different groups that splitter off into 100's of other branches that are linguistically different from each other. In other words they are in no way united into a single political body or ideology, otherwise they would not be under Neo-colonialism from the West. So do not worry about the bantu expansion or whatever it is not a threat. African bantus know we are not Arabs but Cushitic and a unique group of Africans that have no real admixes with any other group. They fear our unity as a people, because we have a single identity and if we use our brains can come to dominate the African continent in no time.

Bantus are not strategic thinkers like the Russians nor are they a logical group of people but hyper emotional. They see Somalia doing better today than it was in 2009 and fear the rise of Somalia. We should not concern ourselves with such childish matters and concentrate on fixing our homeland. Kenyans do not love people from Uganda or Rwanda anymore than a DR Congo person loves a Zambian. Africa is a political mess and the African Union is a worthless talking shop of idiots. If Somalia can turn itself around and rise up from the ashes these same bantus that are taking potshots at you today will come to respect our nation achievements. Somalis need to let the emotional nonsense go and approach things logically.
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Your answer is not a logical response but an emotional one. I don't know the full history of the Somali Youth League when it comes to the road of independence of the nation called Somalia. I am aware however that the United Kingdom had all five territories of the Somali people within their hands and could have easy given them to Somalia without entertaining a poverty sicken and backward nations like Ethiopia or Kenya. The British deliberately gave away our land to those two nations knowing full well that it would lead to conflict in the future. In fact both Ethiopia and Kenya fought Somalis in their region during the 1960's even without Somalia declaring war on them first. I point this out to educate you on the realities of politics on this planet

We have to be smarter than we use to be, we need to evolve as a people. Ethiopia or Kenya are no more pan Africanist than Sudan or Saudi Arabia. The point I am making is simple, the world does not work on emotions nor does it work on poetry but logic. . Black Americans cannot even sort out their own ghetto communities and are too busy calling anyone who does not have a wide nose not black. This is how fucked up black Americans are and they are the originators of this bullshit philosophy called pan Africanism. So do not take what black Americans or anyone else with this ideology seriously its all for show and no substance. Bantu people are divided into 10 different groups that splitter off into 100's of other branches that are linguistically different from each other. In other words they are in no way united into a single political body or ideology, otherwise they would not be under Neo-colonialism from the West. So do not worry about the bantu expansion or whatever it is not a threat. African bantus know we are not Arabs but Cushitic and a unique group of Africans that have no real admixes with any other group. They fear our unity as a people, because we have a single identity and if we use our brains we can come to dominate the African continent in no time.

Bantus are not strategic thinkers like the Russians nor are they a logical group of people but hyper emotional. They see Somalia doing better today than it was in 2009 and fear the rise of Somalia. We should not concern ourselves with such childish matters and concentrate on fixing our homeland. Kenyans do not love people from Uganda or Rwanda anymore than a DR Congo person loves a Zambian. Africa is a political mess and the African Union is a worthless talking shop of idiots. If Somalia can turn itself around and rise up from the ashes these same bantus that are taking potshots at you today will come to respect our nation achievements. Somalis need to let the emotional nonsense go and approach things logically.
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Your answer is not a logical response but an emotional one. I don't know the full history of the Somali Youth League when it comes to the road of independence of the nation called Somalia. I am aware however that the United Kingdom had all five territories of the Somali people within their hands and could have easy given them to Somalia without entertaining a poverty sicken and backward nations like Ethiopia or Kenya. The British deliberately gave away our land to those two nations knowing full well that it would lead to conflict in the future. In fact both Ethiopia and Kenya fought Somalis in their region during the 1960's even without Somalia declaring war on them first. I point this out to educate you on the realities of politics on this planet

We have to be smarter than we use to be, we need to evolve as a people. Ethiopia or Kenya are no more pan Africanist than Sudan or Saudi Arabia. The point I am making is simple, the world does not work on emotions nor does it work on poetry but logic. . Black Americans cannot even sort out their own ghetto communities and are too busy calling anyone who does not have a wide nose not black. This is how fucked up black Americans are and they are the originators of this bullshit philosophy called pan Africanism. So do not take what black Americans or anyone else with this ideology seriously its all for show and no substance. Bantu people are divided into 10 different groups that splitter off into 100's of other branches that are linguistically different from each other. In other words they are in no way united into a single political body or ideology, otherwise they would not be under Neo-colonialism from the West. So do not worry about the bantu expansion or whatever it is not a threat. African bantus know we are not Arabs but Cushitic and a unique group of Africans that have no real admixes with any other group. They fear our unity as a people, because we have a single identity and if we use our brains we can come to dominate the African continent in no time.

Bantus are not strategic thinkers like the Russians nor are they a logical group of people but hyper emotional. They see Somalia doing better today than it was in 2009 and fear the rise of Somalia. We should not concern ourselves with such childish matters and concentrate on fixing our homeland. Kenyans do not love people from Uganda or Rwanda anymore than a DR Congo person loves a Zambian. Africa is a political mess and the African Union is a worthless talking shop of idiots. If Somalia can turn itself around and rise up from the ashes these same bantus that are taking potshots at you today will come to respect our nation achievements. Somalis need to let the emotional nonsense go and approach things logically.
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I seriously cannot stand Pan-Africanists. The original purpose of Pan-Africanism was to economically free Africa from it's colonizers and trade within the continent so that countries can rely on themselves & become rich/developed. People (especially in the west) turned it into some sort of BLM movement, they exclude the Horn of Africa/North Africa & they turned it into another civil rights movement. What's even worse is if you don't have 4C hair, darkskin, 25lb lips or anything similar then they don't consider you African. At the same time, you have coons who claim they're Egyptian/Hebrew israelites/Moroccan/Yemeni/the original "Horn Africans". I believe in a coalition between the Horn/North Africa, but nothing else.
 
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Africa is too huge and fractured to hate Somalia. Most of West Africa, Central Africa, Southern Africa, and North Africa has never had a quarrel with Somalia. It seems some have a fixation on the Bantu people. I remember reading a story where Saudi Arabia was deporting Somalis from their country in the middle of the 1990s. At that time, there was no government in Somalia. The Nigerians and South African diplomats went to the Saudi foreign ministry and told the Saudi officials if Saudi Arabia can't give a refugee status to Somalis whose country doesn't have a government, Saudi Arabia can deport them to South Africa or Nigeria.

Folks, I don't understand the obsession that you have with the rest of the African continent. It is the Somalis who dug a hole for themselves,, and we need to find solutions within ourselves instead d of looking for excuses elsewhere.
 

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Africa is too huge and fractured to hate Somalia. Most of West Africa, Central Africa, Southern Africa, and North Africa has never had a quarrel with Somalia. It seems some have a fixation on the Bantu people. I remember reading a story where Saudi Arabia was deporting Somalis from their country in the middle of the 1990s. At that time, there was no government in Somalia. The Nigerians and South African diplomats went to the Saudi foreign ministry and told the Saudi officials if Saudi Arabia can't give a refugee status to Somalis whose country doesn't have a government, Saudi Arabia can deport them to South Africa or Nigeria.

Folks, I don't understand the obsession that you have with the rest of the African continent. It is the Somalis who dug a hole for themselves,, and we need to find solutions within ourselves instead d of looking for excuses elsewhere.
This is about pure economics and resources, not about "muh deportion". Besides, the whole "Pan Africanism" thing is a western ideology.
 
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This is about pure economics and resources, not about "muh deportion". Besides, the whole "Pan Africanism" thing is a western ideology.

What you're saying doesn't make sense, at least for me. The fixation some have on the rest of the African continent is just dumb and misplaced priorities, in my view.
 
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