Is it possible to expand the jubba and shabelle river?

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We need water conservation, and sand dams are the least costly option that our people should be carrying out.


(@Kaz Kaan, A/Weli Gaas started and completed this project. Too bad PL parliament didn't elect him again).


Too bad you missed the fkd session. Buuhodle got roasted alive alongside the isaaqs here :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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Where? I hardly read all of the posts and threads here.
Gurey deleted it cuz he's emotional about the drought. What he doesn't know is we all feel some strong emotions about it. It hurts our pride so we wanna lower someone else's.
 
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Plants from outside the Horn can't just be planted in Somalia or in all of Somali territories due to the fact they could wipe out the local flora, which in turn could have a devastatiing impact on the wild animals, livestock, and the people. If anything, the plants planted in Somalia should be the ones indigenous to the Somali territories.

Fyi, there is a tree called "garanwaa", which was planed in Somalia, Ogadenia, and NFD by foreign NGOs. It is spreading like a wild fire and has negative impact on camels, goats, and cows. We don't need plants brought outside from our region. Be careful people!

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Plans from outside the Horn can't just be planted in Somalia or in all of Somali territories due to the fact they could wipe out the local flora, which in turn could have a devastatiing impact on the wild animals, livestock, and the people. If anything, the plants planted in Somaliq should be the ones indigeneous to the Somali territories.

Fyi, there is a tree called "garanwaa", which was planed in Somalia, Ogadenia, and NFD by foreign NGOs. It is spreading like a wild fire and has negative impact on camels, goats, and cows. We don't need plants brought outside from our region. Be careful people!

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I was thinking more about fruits and vegetables but that's really something else. Also, there are some seeds that literally kill soil when planted so I think everyone needs to do their due diligence when looking for ways to help the homeland.
 

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Plants from outside the Horn can't just be planted in Somalia or in all of Somali territories due to the fact they could wipe out the local flora, which in turn could have a devastatiing impact on the wild animals, livestock, and the people. If anything, the plants planted in Somalia should be the ones indigenous to the Somali territories.

Fyi, there is a tree called "garanwaa", which was planed in Somalia, Ogadenia, and NFD by foreign NGOs. It is spreading like a wild fire and has negative impact on camels, goats, and cows. We don't need plants brought outside from our region. Be careful people!

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I've heard of an invasive tree called geed yahuud is that the one? It's taken over farms in parts of the country and the seeds have killed lifestock.
 
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I've heard of an invasive tree called geed yahuud is that the one? It's taken over farms in parts of the country and the seeds have killed lifestock.

Yes, "Geed Yahuud" or "Garanwaa" is the one. The names are used interchangeably depending upon the region. It is also the same tree that is mentioned in the hadith shown below.

And my point was be careful about the foreign plants that are imported into our land: They could wipe out our indigenous flora and fauna. We have different varieties of local flora that we can really plant in our land that makes the environment look greenish and beautiful.

"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا يَعْقُوبُ، - يَعْنِي ابْنَ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ - عَنْ سُهَيْلٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ لاَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ حَتَّى يُقَاتِلَ الْمُسْلِمُونَ الْيَهُودَ فَيَقْتُلُهُمُ الْمُسْلِمُونَ حَتَّى يَخْتَبِئَ الْيَهُودِيُّ مِنْ وَرَاءِ الْحَجَرِ وَالشَّجَرِ فَيَقُولُ الْحَجَرُ أَوِ الشَّجَرُ يَا مُسْلِمُ يَا عَبْدَ اللَّهِ هَذَا يَهُودِيٌّ خَلْفِي فَتَعَالَ فَاقْتُلْهُ ‏.‏ إِلاَّ الْغَرْقَدَ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْ شَجَرِ الْيَهُودِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏"

Source: https://sunnah.com/muslim:2922
 

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You were discussing qabiil which clearly is not the intended purpose of the thread. Niggas ruined a beautiful thread with FKD. This is a positive thread and such threads are rare, lets not ruin it plz
Never mind I thought you deleted my post on the Togdheer river
 

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@Living in the dream is it cali garoob? That tree is prevalent in South . It has been brought into Kenya by Moi from Israel and it has been planted in NFD. The animals grazing in NFD and going back to Jl may have spread the seeds. It is thorny and perfectly adopted to the dry climate


EDIT: Its scientific name is Prosopis juliflora and it helps in malaria transmission as it produces sugar that critical to the survival of the female anopheles mosquito which carries the disease causing parasite known as plasmodium
 
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@Living in the dream is it cali garoob? That tree is prevalent in South . It has been brought into Kenya by Moi from Israel and it has been planted in NFD. The animals grazing in NFD and going back to Jl may have spread the seeds. It is thorny and perfectly adopted to the dry climate
Geed Yahuud was brought to SL by mengistu planting it in Afar and Galbeed
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@Living in the dream is it cali garoob? That tree is prevalent in South . It has been brought into Kenya by Moi from Israel and it has been planted in NFD. The animals grazing in NFD and going back to Jl may have spread the seeds. It is thorny and perfectly adopted to the dry climate

I'll check around to see if is the same true. Yes, Geed Yahuud is a thorny and easily spread by camels and others animals who consume it. Its impact is devastating.
 

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@Living in the dream is it cali garoob? That tree is prevalent in South . It has been brought into Kenya by Moi from Israel and it has been planted in NFD. The animals grazing in NFD and going back to Jl may have spread the seeds. It is thorny and perfectly adopted to the dry climate


EDIT: Its scientific name is Prosopis juliflora and it helps in malaria transmission as it produces sugar that critical to the survival of the female anopheles mosquito which carries the disease causing parasite known as plasmodium
Yes Geed yahuud is cali garoob.


Here is a guy explaining how it was brought to Somalia

 
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I saw an ngo claim they used aerial seeding to combat deforestation. Somalia has lost 83% of its forest cover in the last few decades. I think they used geed yahuud, it'd explain how they spread it so quickly.

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That is exactly what they've done. It was a deliberate plan to destroy Somalis' main food stay: Meat and milk from our livestock. You noticed in Kenya they were funding the replanting of the acacia tree; in all of the Somali-inhabited regions, deforestation was solely focused on acacia trees, and geed yuhuud actually replaced our indigenous trees.
 
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Yes Geed yahuud is cali garoob.


Here is a guy explaining how it was brought to Somalia


Dr Warfaa made it very clear that there was a sinister agenda behind the introduction of this tree to our (Somali) territory. Imagine the 30 years of lawlessness and the free hand that the UN and other western-backed NGOs had on our lands. It is found every where now. Now that we saw its devastating effects on our environment, we need to raise enough awareness and contribute to every effort to remove it from our land.
 

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Dr Warfaa made it very clear that there was a sinister agenda behind the introduction of this tree to our (Somali) territory. Imagine the 30 years of lawlessness and the free hand that the UN and other western-backed NGOs had on our lands. It is found every where now. Now that we saw its devastating effects on our environment, we need to raise enough awareness and contribute to every effort to remove it from our land.

It'd be very hard for it to be destroyed because livestock could have consumed it without the owners knowledge and poop it out miles away spreading it to different areas.

The only way to properly destroyed it is to extract it from the root and burn it completely to remove all traces. If not done properly it can regrow on rocks and in trash piles etc.
 

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Plants from outside the Horn can't just be planted in Somalia or in all of Somali territories due to the fact they could wipe out the local flora, which in turn could have a devastatiing impact on the wild animals, livestock, and the people. If anything, the plants planted in Somalia should be the ones indigenous to the Somali territories.

Fyi, there is a tree called "garanwaa", which was planed in Somalia, Ogadenia, and NFD by foreign NGOs. It is spreading like a wild fire and has negative impact on camels, goats, and cows. We don't need plants brought outside from our region. Be careful people!

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Exactly why i advised only planting a few landmark trees on your private land. On the large scale we plant native forest and tropical trees from the horn region.
 

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Dr Warfaa made it very clear that there was a sinister agenda behind the introduction of this tree to our (Somali) territory. Imagine the 30 years of lawlessness and the free hand that the UN and other western-backed NGOs had on our lands. It is found every where now. Now that we saw its devastating effects on our environment, we need to raise enough awareness and contribute to every effort to remove it from our land.
Man you tell the locals that it's the yahuud tree from the hadith and they'll burn it for free.

Those NGO's pulled a fast one on our grandfathers. Btw guys are we just gonna discuss this or try to contact the government back home and set up an NGO for this project. We can start with just the people on this forum. I'm definitely down to rent a venue and meet up with the UK somali diaspora to discuss these issues and plan ahead. We can act now and in ten years somalia will be reforested and beautiful.

Do you think farmaajo would allocate funds to this project? Just the tree planting which is cheap especially with drones. Restoring rivers and rejuvenating aquifers will have to come later as it's too costly.
 
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