In regards to Arab hatred (inspired by Gacanka Cadmeed’s thread)

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This is a bit of a continuation of Gacanka Cadmeed’s thread, and the reason why I’ve made this a separate thread is because what I’m saying is a bit different from what he is saying, but there are a lot of overlaps, also the thread went completely off south towards the end.


One thing I’d like to point out is that It’s funny when I see a lot of these so called Somali “nationalists” say “b-but what have these Arabs done for me and my tuulo, why should I support them” without understanding that this logic can be said from any group to any people including themselves and we’d be left with a world stripped from any naxariis, and the westerners that a lot like to worship could have said the same to us.

I should also note that they usually mean when you press them hard enough is that we should focus on Somali issues first and then care about other people’s problems, as if we are not cognitively capable of focusing on more than one issue simultaneously

A lot of the rhetoric is simply because they are Arabs, and they’ve been brainwashed into thinking every single Arab is an enemy of Somalis and have racist views towards us, talking points you’ve most likely heard from these people include “they see you as an ab**d, why should you care about them”, not only is it pathetic and insecure but is a blatant generalization based on nothing but either personal anecdotes or whatever bullshit they’ve seen on social media (as if all groups don’t have those types of people online or in real life, including Somalis)

The sad thing about this all this line of rationale would eventually lead towards a pipeline to gaalnimo if left unchecked, a lot of these people will then associate the religion of Islam with Arabs since the prophet (PBUH) was an Arab, despite the fact that Arabs contribute to a small minority of Muslims overall, and a a lot like to claim that they hold a monopoly on the religion yet a lot of these Arab countries have been destroyed save from a few wealthy ones

We can hate racists no matter what their color and creed may be, and we can condemn the actions of Arabs when they have done intolerable things, but the whole Arab hatred just like any other hatred of people for their color and creed is rooted in ignorance and misunderstandings
 

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This is from a person who has had this problem before. You might not believe it, but I used to be those pan-Africanists and based part of my identity on it. I also went through this stage again shortly when I was an extreme Somali nationalist. Alhamdulillah I left that jaahilnimo and shallow way of looking at the world through tribalistic, nationalistic and racial lens.


Yes, having dislike and even hatred for Arabs AS A WHOLE will affect your deen to some degree. You'll start by feeling uneasy when people use Arabic lingo in their day to day convos. Then you'll start getting irritated by the majority of loan words being Arabic and begin to start talking about purging the loan words.

Your dislike for Arabic loanwords will slowly translate to your dislike for Arabic as a whole, then slowly but surely, you'll start to question why Arabic was the chosen language of the quran and because of your racial and tribalistic outlook on life, you'll start to slowly identify the Quran(the truth) with Arabnimo. This will make you feel somewhat inferior because it starts to feel like a foreign religion is what you're being subjected to. An inferiority complex will emerge because you advocate for Somalinimo yet follow a religion whose holy book is in a different language.

Then comes the stage when your mind starts telling you that the deen of Islam is in invention of Arabs because of how it previously associated Islam with Arabnimo rather than it being simply from Allah.

In retaliation to Arabta you'll start to advocate for people to have their own versions of Islam and not 'follow carabta'. You stop seeing Islam as a religion we all share and start dividing it up based on racial and tribal lines.


This will lead you to apostasy. Alhamdulillah though, I was raised in an Islamic environment throughout my life and I loved it. So I managed to get out of that mindset the moment I noticed the inferiority complex seeping in.

I constantly told myself, "How can I be inferior to them when Allah is the one who made me the way I am, there is no superiority except in righteousness in the eyes of Allah(SW)."


This route is not only taken by blm faraxs and xalimos, the pan africanists or the Arab haters. It is also taken by Somali nationalists. They are so engrossed on "PURE SOMALINIMO" that they start to see the world through the black and white lenses of nationalism. That's when they start to stray from Islam.



Alahmadulillah because I grew out of this and gained some maturity in my thinking. A lot of the Carab haters haven't though.


Btw, I'm not saying that wishing for Somalis to retain their Somali identity and advancing their language is a bad thing. What I'm saying is that if hating Arabs as a whole will lead to that intention, then it's a bad one that will only lead you to getting tunnel vision.

The moment you start viewing Islam in a tribalistic, nationalistic, racial way, then just know you're in trouble and that shaytan is slowly(not fast) going to lead you to apostasy.

Hope you guys know that majority of Ex-Somalis dislike Carabta. There's a lesson to be learnt there.
 

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Um...Somalis hate each other. Deeply. I see no reason to show love to any race on earth so long as we shower ourselves with envy, hatred and explosions. So until that issue is solved, we shouldn't give a hoot about anybody else.
 

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Um...Somalis hate each other. Deeply. I see no reason to show love to any race on earth so long as we shower ourselves with envy, hatred and explosions. So until that issue is solved, we shouldn't give a hoot about anybody else.
I'm guessing your solution is to increase nationalism and ethnic solidarity....
 

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This is from a person who has had this problem before. You might not believe it, but I used to be those pan-Africanists and based part of my identity on it. I also went through this stage again shortly when I was an extreme Somali nationalist. Alhamdulillah I left that jaahilnimo and shallow way of looking at the world through tribalistic, nationalistic and racial lens.


Yes, having dislike and even hatred for Arabs AS A WHOLE will affect your deen to some degree. You'll start by feeling uneasy when people use Arabic lingo in their day to day convos. Then you'll start getting irritated by the majority of loan words being Arabic and begin to start talking about purging the loan words.

Your dislike for Arabic loanwords will slowly translate to your dislike for Arabic as a whole, then slowly but surely, you'll start to question why Arabic was the chosen language of the quran and because of your racial and tribalistic outlook on life, you'll start to slowly identify the Quran(the truth) with Arabnimo. This will make you feel somewhat inferior because it starts to feel like a foreign religion is what you're being subjected to. An inferiority complex will emerge because you advocate for Somalinimo yet follow a religion whose holy book is in a different language.

Then comes the stage when your mind starts telling you that the deen of Islam is in invention of Arabs because of how it previously associated Islam with Arabnimo rather than it being simply from Allah.

In retaliation to Arabta you'll start to advocate for people to have their own versions of Islam and not 'follow carabta'. You stop seeing Islam as a religion we all share and start dividing it up based on racial and tribal lines.


This will lead you to apostasy. Alhamdulillah though, I was raised in an Islamic environment throughout my life and I loved it. So I managed to get out of that mindset the moment I noticed the inferiority complex seeping in.

I constantly told myself, "How can I be inferior to them when Allah is the one who made me the way I am, there is no superiority except in righteousness in the eyes of Allah(SW)."


This route is not only taken by blm faraxs and xalimos, the pan africanists or the Arab haters. It is also taken by Somali nationalists. They are so engrossed on "PURE SOMALINIMO" that they start to see the world through the black and white lenses of nationalism. That's when they start to stray from Islam.



Alahmadulillah because I grew out of this and gained some maturity in my thinking. A lot of the Carab haters haven't though.


Btw, I'm not saying that wishing for Somalis to retain their Somali identity and advancing their language is a bad thing. What I'm saying is that if hating Arabs as a whole will lead to that intention, then it's a bad one that will only lead you to getting tunnel vision.

The moment you start viewing Islam in a tribalistic, nationalistic, racial way, then just know you're in trouble and that shaytan is slowly(not fast) going to lead you to apostasy.

Hope you guys know that majority of Ex-Somalis dislike Carabta. There's a lesson to be learnt there.
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Um...Somalis hate each other. Deeply. I see no reason to show love to any race on earth so long as we shower ourselves with envy, hatred and explosions. So until that issue is solved, we shouldn't give a hoot about anybody else.
The hate for other Somalis that a lot of us hold is predicated on the same things we have for other groups such as the Arabs, we should mend ties with our fellow Somalis and not hate one another simply based on things such as tribe, just as we shouldn’t hate any group of people simply based on their ethnicity, color etc we should make an effort to end both
 

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The funny thing is that nationalism escalated our qabyaalad problem in Somali lands🤣🤣


Nationalism won't work in Somalia. Just so you know.
 
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